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Ambassador Burns' Interview with Gazeta.ru
William J. Burns, U.S. Ambassador to Russia
Gazeta.ru, November 22, 2005
MODERATOR: In total, there are 300 questions. But we have selected much
fewer, about 15. Almost exactly, there were some 280 by the mid-day. The first
question is introductory, related to congratulations on your appointment. The
question is: do you like it in Russia and what do you like and dislike about it?
AMBASSADOR: First, I would to like to thank you very much for the
opportunity. I am delighted to be back in Russia, where I lived and worked 10
years ago. It's a fascinating country. There have been many changes over the
last ten years. Certainly, the economic situation in Moscow and other parts of
the country that I have visited has improved. It's true that many challenges
remain. For example, there are challenges with regard to health care, with
regard to housing, with regard to education that the Russian Government has
identified as national priorities. But in general I am very impressed by the
changes I have seen and I look forward very much to working here as Ambassador.
Thank you for your question.
MODERATOR: Esteemed Mr. Ambassador, we will ask the next question. You were
appointed to Moscow with considerable working experience in the Middle East.
Should one attempt to explain this, he could do so in three ways. One is, Russia
is closer to eastern countries because of its intrigues, political culture, oil,
etc. The second explanation is that by working in Russia it is also possible to
work on resolving Middle East issues, because Russia also actively participates
in resolving them. The third way is to give no explanation at all, just say that
the appointment took place for other reasons. Which of the three explanations is
the most plausible?
AMBASSADOR: During my diplomatic work I have really had two specialties. As
you have said, I worked extensively on Middle East issues. But I have also had
the pleasure of working in Russia before and I studied the Russian language and
history for some years before that. Certainly, the Middle East is one of the
most important issues in our relationship with Russia. There are many
opportunities for us to work together on the Arab-Israeli peace process, as well
as on Iran. But as I said, we have a very rich agenda of issues, on which the
United States and Russia can work together, and the Middle East is only one of
them. So, rather than speculating any further on why I was chosen for this job,
I'll just say again that I am very lucky to be here and very lucky to have the
chance to work on a relationship that is still very important to the United
States.
MODERATOR: We'll go back to foreign policy. Eighty percent of our questions,
you have read them, are on visa issues. I understand that you are unlikely to be
able to answer concrete questions, but we will ask you some general ones. For
example, most frequently questions are on the so-called Green Card Lottery.
Russians are asking when they once again will be able to participate in the
lottery, and what problems are related to this.
AMBASSADOR: I am not surprised by the number of questions on visa issues.
It's a very important issue for the Embassy and a very important issue on the
minds of Russians. And my colleagues at the Consular Section of the Embassy work
very hard to try and provide the best service and to be as clear as we can about
explaining American law and visa policies. On the issue of the Green Card
Lottery, Russians were eligible to take part in the lottery for most of the last
ten years. The way the Green Lottery program is set up is to address the needs
of countries where the levels of immigration to the United States are relatively
low, and that was true for Russia for most of the last ten years. But in recent
years the level of Russian emigration to the United States has increased to the
point that Russia is no longer eligible for the Green Card Lottery program. This
is a rule, as I said before, that does not apply just to Russia, it applies to
any country in the world. And if the level of emigration by Russians to the
United States should decrease in the future, Russia could again become eligible
for the Green Card Lottery program.
MODERATOR: Next question. There were also a number of them, they are similar
and I will ask you one as an example. Why, a reader is asking, such people as
Yaponchik (Ivan'kov) come to the U.S. and live there, and then because such
people live in the U.S. and even commit crimes, other people who are law-abiding
are refused visas? In other words, the reader draws attention to some
inconsistency...
AMBASSADOR: It's hard to explain individual visa decisions. In general, the
number of non-immigrant visas issued by the Embassy in Moscow has increased over
the last year. The Embassy issued 80 thousand non-immigrant visas last year,
which was 20 percent more than the year before. In the last year, we issued 45
percent more student visas than the year before. The percentage of non-immigrant
visa applications, which cannot be approved, which are refused, has also
decreased in the last year. It has fallen from 16 percent the year before to 12
percent last year. We want to encourage more travel to the United States and
more study in the United States by Russians, and we want to make the process as
clear and as efficient as possible.
MODERATOR: The last question in the visa group, it also frequently asked. The
readers often asked about rudeness in the Consular Section of the U.S. Embassy.
AMBASSADOR: I have made several visits to our Consular Section and spent time
with our consular officers. What I saw was my American colleagues, as well as my
Russian colleagues working in the Consular Section, behaving in a very
professional and courteous way. It's very important for us to continue to uphold
that standard and to treat people with the respect and dignity that they
deserve.
MODERATOR: Now, if you don't mind, let us move on to foreign policy
questions. There were many questions on Iraq. For example: Mr. Ambassador, how
can you see a way out of the crisis situation in Iraq, and what needs to be done
for this?
AMBASSADOR: I think the most important...
MODERATOR: And there was an additional question: what does Mr. Ambassador
think about the recent scandal on the use of white phosphorus?
AMBASSADOR: First, the main objective of the Iraqi Government, the Iraqi
people and everyone who is trying to support them, is a political process that
has already produced a Constitution and then through elections in several weeks'
time will produce a new government elected on the basis of that Constitution.
It's very important that that political process be inclusive and that it be open
to all the different communities in Iraq. Alongside the political process, it's
very important to continue to make progress in economic re-construction, so that
people have a sense of economic hope. It is crucially important that progress
continue to be made to help the Iraqis build their own security forces, because
the faster the Iraqis can take responsibility for their own security, the sooner
the Coalition forces can withdraw. I do not underestimate the difficulties that
still remain in Iraq, but I believe progress is slowly being made. On the
question of phosphorous, we have made clear publicly that we have not undertaken
any actions, which would violate international law, and we have not undertaken
any actions against civilians.
MODERATOR: Next question. We should also ask about Iran, [readers] also asked
a lot about it. The question is: Mr. Ambassador, in your view, how does the Iran
issue affect U.S.-Russia relations?
AMBASSADOR: It's a very good question and a very important question. I think
the United States and Russia share a common strategic goal to ensure that ran
does not develop a nuclear weapons program. We also both seek to achieve that
goal through diplomatic means and a diplomatic solution. We have intensified our
diplomatic cooperation over the last few months, and the United States and
Russia are also working more closely with Britain, France and Germany. Russia
has contributed some very constructive ideas to the process, such as a provision
in the Bushehr agreement with Iran to take back the fuel that's provided to Iran
after it's used, as well as the most recent proposal to establish a joint
Russian-Iranian venture to provide fuel to Iran.
MODERATOR: The next set of questions, there were very many of those. The
readers are interested in opinion with the regard to the abolition of
Jackson-Vanik amendment. A few days ago it was abolished, at least on a
preliminary stage, in relation to Ukraine.
AMBASSADOR: I know the Jackson-Vanik issue is a very frustrating one to many
Russians. It was a frustrating issue for Russians ten years ago when I worked in
Moscow. And it is not easy to explain why it has not yet been lifted. American
Presidents have certified every year since 1994 that Russia is in full
compliance with the emigration provisions of Jackson-Vanik, and every year the
United States has waived the application of Jackson-Vanik to our trade
relationship with Russia. The position of the American Administration for some
years has been that Jackson-Vanik should be lifted, but there have been concerns
raised in Congress. I hope that it will soon be possible to attempt to lift
Jackson-Vanik again, and, certainly, Russia's accession to the World Trade
Organization, which we strongly support, would help accelerate this process. The
recent steps in the American Congress with regard to lifting Jackson-Vanik on
Ukraine are a reflection of our Congress' interest in supporting positive
change, in supporting Ukraine's evolution to become a stable and prosperous
country. And I hope very much that we will be able to move in this direction
with regard to Jackson-Vanik on Russia soon.
MODERATOR: With your permission we will move on to domestic politics. The
most burning issue -- the election in the Chechen Republic will take place in a
week -- the question is: Mr. Ambassador, what is the U.S. position on the
Chechnya issue, does the U.S. Government support the pro-Russia Government of
the Chechen Republic, and, in general, what is the U.S. position regarding the
elections next week?
AMBASSADOR: We hope very much that the elections that will take place in
Chechnya later this month will expand political participation in Chechnya and
will contribute to stabilizing the situation.
MODERATOR: Then, next question, if you don't mind. It is also very simple: do
you think there is freedom of speech in Russia?
AMBASSADOR: Certainly, there is greater freedom of expression in Russia today
than there was when I first dealt with Russian issues 15-20 years ago. The
development of political institutions, including a free media, is a along and
complicated process, and the role of independent media is certainly critically
important in dealing with problems like corruption, because it's only through a
genuinely independent media that people can be held accountable. That's why it's
natural that from time to time Russians raise concerns about limitations on free
expression, especially on the electronic media. And that's why friends of
Russia, like the United States and others, have raised concerns from time to
time also. It's in America's interest to see a strong Russia continue to emerge,
and, in our opinion, a strong Russia will depend on modern economic and
political institutions. And an independent media is one of the most important of
those institutions.
MODERATOR: You may know, the Duma tomorrow will consider amendments to the
law on non-governmental organizations, which somehow complicate their
establishment. Prior to that, there was a long story of persecution of some
NGO's. The question from a reader is: would the United States put pressure on
Russia to counteract a ban on NGO's or their persecution?
AMBASSADOR: First, it is perfectly reasonable for any government to seek to
establish clear standards and clear regulations that would apply to
non-governmental or non-commercial organizations. The United States has its own
set of such standards. For example, American law prohibits foreign financing of
candidates in American elections. Other G-8 countries have similar standards.
But it seems to me that the purpose of these standards should be to make the
work of non-governmental organizations more transparent and more efficient, not
to complicate it. A number of Russian observers, including members of the new
Public Chamber have emphasized the importance of looking very carefully and very
thoroughly at the law to ensure that it serves Russia's own self-interest in
active and productive non-commercial organizations. And these organizations,
some of which receive funding from foreign sources, play an important role in a
wide range of activities, not only in encouraging the development of political
institutions, but also in education, health care and in many other areas.
MODERATOR: Mr. Ambassador, how much time do we have left?
AMBASSADOR: Maybe five more minutes.
MODERATOR: The next question, there several of those as well, this is also a
tangible issue, Mr. Ambassador, what do you think about the upsurge of
nationalist extremism and nationalism in Russia. Particularly, the so-called
march of the right on November 4 in Moscow, attacks on foreign students, etc.?
AMBASSADOR: Certainly, a number of thoughtful Russian observers have
expressed concerns about these signs of extremism and racism. These are very
disturbing trends. The United States has had its own difficult experiences in
dealing with extremism and racism. We still have not entirely succeeded in
defeating these problems. Like the United States, Russia is a very diverse
society, and both the United States and Russia draw strength from their
diversity. And that is why it's important for both of us to fight against
intolerance and racism and extremism.
MODERATOR: Thank you. Well, since out time is up, I will ask the last
question, and I will read it without changing the reader's original style. Mr.
Ambassador, please tell how you evaluate the present relationship between our
two countries. Have we indeed become friends or is only a show as many Russians
think? Thank you.
AMBASSADOR: I believe we are real friends. I know we have differences
sometimes, and that's natural. But I am optimistic about the future of Russia,
about the future of our relationship. When I say that I'm an optimist, many of
my friends in Russia remind me that the definition of an optimist in Russia is
someone who thinks that tomorrow will be better than the day after. I mean
something a little different when I say I am an optimist. I think Russia has
come a very long way since I last lived and worked here ten years ago. I know
many challenges remain and I know tomorrow will be complicated, but I really do
believe that the day after will be better for Russia and for the U.S.-Russian
relationship. Thank you for your question.
MODERATOR: Thank you very much, Mr. Ambassador.
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