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#16
Psychologist Views Chechen Cultural Traditions, Their Influence on Situation
Rossiyskaya Gazeta
10 January 2003
Interview with military psychologist Leonid Kitayev-Smyk by Yelena Novoselova;
place and date not given: "Why d'Artagnan Did Not Become a Terrorist?"
-- first paragraph is Rossiyskaya Gazeta introduction
What kind of republic corresponds to the state of Chechen society most? Only
a parliamentary republic does, believes Leonid Kitayev-Smyk, military
psychologist, senior staff scientific at the Institute of Culture Studies and
author of the recently published book entitled "The Stress of War."
Each Chechen Is His Own President.
Vaynakh -- the ancestors of the Chechens and the Ingush -- were a
military-democratic society. The Chechens and the Ingush are one nation, which
was artificially divided in the past decades. "Each Chechen is his own
president," is a very astute expression. Individualism is typical of all
mountaineers to a smaller or greater degree, because every person has to survive
in his gorge, on his small mountain ledge and to protect himself and his family.
However, due to ethnic factors individualism is expressed in Chechens more
strongly than in any other people.
[Novoselova] Did anything of the kind exist in our or other nations' past?
[Kitayev-Smyk] As we all remember, there was another military-democratic
structure in the European part of Russia -- the Zaporizhzhya Cossacks. When
Catherine the Great's hierarchic state system collided with them it realized the
two could not coexist. And then, the empress took a very cunning and wise
political step: The Zaporizhzhya Cossacks were relocated and settled in the
vicinity of the military-democratic societies of the North Caucasus and
therefore, neutralized each other. If we go beyond Russia's borders we can
recall Basques or the people living on other side of the Pyrenees where they are
called Gasconians. D'Artagnan was a Chechen of his epoch. And so was the
Gasconian "field commander" Henri IV. He had enough courage, wisdom,
and craft to win the French crown. If his traits as a king had been combined,
for instance, with Muslim radicalism, Europe would have been in trouble to say
the least.
Blood Feuds Under the Guise of War.
[Novoselova] How advisable it is to hold peace talks at this point?
[Kitayev-Smyk] Of course, peace talks are necessary. Several factors
complicate the situation. With whom should negotiations be held since each clan
recognizes only its own leader? It is necessary to convene a general assembly, a
meeting, and in the long run, form a legislature. Negotiations with Maskhadov
are absolutely senseless. Most Chechens do not respect him not only because he
is a representative of a different clan but also because he did not behave in
the best possible way during the period between the wars and during the second
Chechen campaign. Second, the Wahhabite instigated young people who had drifted
apart not only from the European or Russian but also from the Chechen culture to
kill fellow Chechens. This gave rise to blood feud. Chechens have spilled a lot
of Chechen blood. Many Chechens are currently fighting on Russia's side not
because they support its policy but because they want to have an opportunity to
carry out the vendetta.
[Novoselova] Can blood feud spread to involve our military's families?
[Kitayev-Smyk] No. According to the mountain law it can be used solely
against fellow Chechens. Incidentally, blood feud does not necessarily mean
murder. Preference is given to compensation in the form of 60 cows for a man and
120 cows for a woman (women can give birth to soldiers). Expulsion of the
culprit comes second. And murder comes third.
When a Youngster Is More Important Than Elders.
[Novoselova] Is Chechnya doomed to internal conflicts?
[Kitayev-Smyk] The so-called general assembly of one or several clans plays a
very important role in Chechnya. The institution of general assemblies, which
has existed for centuries, is a prototype of parliament. Intelligent people play
first fiddle in the assembly. Not necessarily elders. I saw a youngster (one can
take part in assemblies from the age of 14) moved to the first row after he made
two or three reasonable remarks. Meanwhile, an old man was asked to leave the
assembly for making absurd remarks. There was a case during the second Chechen
campaign when a general invited Chechen elders to negotiations. I was in a
nearby village and heard young Chechens laugh: "Russians are stupid. They
brought together a bunch of Alzheimer patients and think we are going to obey
them."
[Novoselova] Does this mean that unconditional obedience to the old is yet
another cock-and-bull story about mountaineers?
[Kitayev-Smyk] It is a story invented by ignorant people. I have seen young
men from one clan beating up elders from another clan. At present, Chechen young
people do not greatly respect their elders for a number of reasons. First, the
elders are accused of allowing the 1944 deportation. Second, they are physically
weak and unable to fight; they cannot be winners.
[Novoselova] What does the "generation of winners" look like?
[Kitayev-Smyk] Young people who have not attended school since 1993-1994
currently rule in the Caucasus. This can sound paradoxical, but Chechens are
workaholics and have a great thirst for knowledge. And what have they studied
over the past decade? Only how to fight.
[Novoselova] Is any kind of activity regarded as work? Is it a broad notion?
[Kitayev-Smyk] Work is regarded as a prestigious activity. The point is that
due to their individualism Chechens are above all winners. If criminal activity
is currently regarded as the most successful in Russia Chechens will focus all
their diligence to succeed in this field. If some other activity is regarded as
prestigious they will be thoroughly engrossed in it. What should we do? We
should open motor and aviation assembly plants, or preferably enterprises
manufacturing newest-generation computers, but first, young people should be
educated in reputable foreign colleges. If Western peacemaking organizations
want peace so much why don't they render assistance as sponsors?
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