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US White House
April 6, 2008
Office of the Press Secretary
President Bush Participates in Joint Press Availability
with President Putin of Russia
Press Center
State Residence of the President of Russia
Sochi, Russia
12:07 P.M. (Local)
PRESIDENT PUTIN: (As translated.) Good afternoon. Dear ladies and gentlemen,
first and foremost I would like to thank the President of the United States, Mr.
Bush, for accepting the invitation to meet here in Sochi, in order to sort of
draw the bottom line of the eight years of our parallel terms in office. And he
will probably agree with me, the result has been positive on the whole.
Since our first meeting in Ljubljana back in 2001, we have had an open and
sincere relationship, and this has allowed us, without any circumventions or
conventions, to start discussion the most pressing issues on the international
and bilateral agenda. This dialogue is not always easy between our two
countries. There have been and there remain certain disagreements on a number of
issues, but the search of common denominators is going on.
George and I, I have already mentioned, have been able to build our agenda in
a way that would prevent our disagreements on one set of issues from negatively
influencing the state of play in other areas, where we do have progress and
where we are converging our positions. This has strengthened the entire
architecture of the U.S.-Russian relationship.
In preparing for this meeting, and in the course of this meeting, we have
taken stock of major issues on the U.S.-Russian agenda, and here in Sochi we
have adopted a declaration on strategic framework. Of course, it does not
provide any breakthrough solutions on a number of issues, but we did not really
expect this. It is important that the document sums up the positive achievements
of the past few years -- these in such areas as security, nonproliferation,
including the initiatives that President and I put forward, these on
counterterrorism and building business partnerships.
The declaration also reflects our continuing disagreements, primarily in the
political-military field, but we reaffirm our willingness to work towards
overcoming those differences. The most important thing is that we are talking
about a strategic choice of our nations in favor of developing a constructive
relationship that goes beyond the previous model of mutual containment. This
declaration is a forward-looking one, and it provides a much more accurate
assessment of the level of our partnership than what is normally believed based
on stereotypes.
Certainly we have taken advantage of this meeting in order to sincerely,
without protocol, discuss the most pressing issues of today, primarily those
that influence strategic stability and international security for the long term,
which is also very important.
I will not conceal that on a number of the most -- one of the most difficult
issues was, and remains, the issue of missile defense in Europe. This is not
about language; this is not about diplomatic phrasing or wording; this is about
the substance of the issue. I'd like to be very clear on this. Our fundamental
attitude to the American plans have not changed. However, certain progress is
obvious. Our concerns have been heard by the United States. In March at the
2-plus-2 meeting, and earlier today in my conversation with President Bush, we
have been offered a set of confidence-building and transparency measures in the
field of missile defense, and we can feel that the President of the United
States takes a very serious approach here and is sincerely willing to resolve
this problem.
We do support this approach, and certainly, in principle, adequate measures
of confidence-building and transparency can be found. They can be important and
useful in addressing these kind of issues. Thus, we now have room for
cooperation, we're ready for such interaction. As far as the concrete substance
of the U.S. proposals, it is too early to speak about it at this point. It is up
to the experts to discuss the technical details of these proposals, and it is up
to them to make any final conclusions. And the alternative that we offered last
year is still relevant. We hope that it will be an issue for discussion in the
future.
As far as strategic offensive weapons are concerned, we do have certain
differences still in our basic approaches. And of course, both Russia and the
United States are in favor of the continuation of a process of nuclear
disarmament, and we have found some common ground here.
Last year in Kennebunkport, Mr. Bush and I agreed to start work on a new
agreement that would replace the START Treaty, which would expire in 2009. We
agreed that it would be necessary to maintain all the useful and necessary parts
of the START Treaty. We're going to continue working on this. Our concerns are
clear to both sides, in such fields as the development of state-of-the-art
technology, and I hope that experts will be able to find some agreement here, as
well.
We also discussed the CFE Treaty. We discussed the enlargement policy of
NATO. We spoke very frankly and in a very substantive fashion. And overall, I am
satisfied that our partners are listening to us quite attentively, and I hope
that here, as well, we are going to reach some true understanding. Of course,
the Sochi declaration had to reflect our cooperation.
In business, we reaffirmed our mutual willingness to ensure Russia's early
accession to the WTO on commercially viable terms and commercially justified
terms that would not undermine Russia's economic interests. We hope that the
United States this year will make Russia exempt from the Jackson-Vanik
Amendment, and we hope that the United States will establish permanent normal
trade relations with Russia. We have also reaffirmed our willingness to continue
our business-to-business cooperation. Another relevant issue is the work on a
new incremental agreement on the encouragement and mutual protection of
investment.
Another important area of our cooperation is energy. Here we do have certain
good progress. We hope that our energy dialogue will carry on, and we hope that
it will involve major projects that would be in line with the interests of both
countries.
This is my last meeting with President Bush in my current capacity, and I
would like to mention here that I have always found it rewarding and interesting
to deal with the U.S. President. I have always appreciated his honesty and his
openness, his willingness to listen to his counterpart. And this is precious. We
have been motivated by our sincere willingness to strengthen our partnership and
to strengthen mutual understanding between our two nations. We have sought to
find new horizons for our cooperation. And I'm grateful to George for the
achievement that we can register, and this achievement is very much due to him
and his support.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Thank you, Vladimir. Thanks for your gracious invitation.
This is the very room where you served an unbelievably good dinner last night,
with fabulous entertainment. Thank you for your hospitality. Laura and I are
thrilled to be with you. And also, thank you for the briefing on the Winter
Olympics. I'm sure the people in this area are really excited about the fact
that you've been awarded the Winter Olympics. I congratulate you and wish you
all the very best. And maybe you'll invite me to come as your guest -- who
knows.
We spent a lot of time in our relationship trying to get rid of the Cold War.
It's over. It ended. And the fundamental question in this relationship is, could
we work together to put the Cold War in the past? And I fully recognize there
are people in America and Russia that think the Cold War still exists. And
sometimes that makes relations difficult. But it's very important for leaders to
think strategically and not get stuck in the past, and be willing to advance
agendas.
And so we worked very hard over the past years to find areas where we can
work together, and find ways to be agreeable when we disagree. And I think we've
done a pretty good job of it. And I want to thank you for your openness, as
well. It's been a remarkable relationship.
Today, the signing of this strategic framework declaration really does show
the breadth and the depth of our cooperation. It shows where we differ, as
Vladimir mentioned, but it shows that when you work hard, you can find areas
where you can figure out how to cooperate. The document speaks of the respect of
rule of law, international law, human rights, the tolerance of diversity,
political freedom and a free market approach to economic policy and practices.
One of the areas where we've agreed to work together is in missile defense.
And obviously, as Vladimir mentioned, this an area where we've got more work to
do to convince the Russian side that the system is not aimed at Russia. As the
agreement mentioned, we agree today that the United States and Russia want to
create a system for responding to potential missile threats, in which Russia and
the United States and Europe will participate as equal partners.
This is a powerful and important strategic vision. It's the vision that
Vladimir Putin first articulated in Kennebunkport, Maine. For those of you
there, you might remember the moment. And this is what we're building on. We're
taking the vision that we discussed in Kennebunkport and now we're putting it in
a document form, to help not only this administration but future American
administrations work with future Russian administrations on this very important
issue.
To help counter those threats, the United States is working with the Czech
Republic and Poland, and as the President has done consistently, he expressed
his concerns about those relationships. There's no doubt where he stands. That's
why I like him. You don't have to guess. And he is concerned about it. Yet
Russia appreciates the confidence-building and transparency measures that we
have proposed, and declared that if agreed and implemented, such measures will
be important and useful in ensuring [sic]* Russia concerns.
He's got doubts about whether or not these systems are aimed at him. My view
is, is that the more open we are, the more transparent we are, the more we share
technological information, the more likely it will be that people throughout the
system understand that this is an opportunity to deal with the threats of the
21st century, such as a launch from the Middle East or elsewhere. And the
document shows areas where we agree and where we disagree, but where we can work
together in the future. And I appreciate that very much.
We're talk -- we're working together to stop the spread of dangerous weapons,
and I appreciate the fact that we're implementing the Bratislava Nuclear
Security Initiative, which is an important initiative. We continue to work
together to meet the threat of nuclear terrorism, including through the global
initiative to combat nuclear terrorism. It's an important initiative in which
the Russians and the United States have worked cooperatively and have taken the
lead.
We talked about Iran. As I told Vladimir, that in the States, when asked
about this at the press conferences, I've always told people how much I
appreciate his leadership on the Iranian issue. After all, Russia went to the
Iranians and said: You should have civilian nuclear power. I agree. He then went
on to say: And we'll provide the fuel for you. Therefore, there's no need for
you to enrich.
And it's your leadership on this issue, Mr. President, that's very important
in making sure that the regime honors the international commitments that we
expect it to.
We briefly touched about the six-party talks with North Korea -- the need for
us to work together to help that nation move forward.
We talked about fighting terror. The United States has suffered terrorist
attacks on its soil, as have Russia. And I will tell you, there's been no firmer
person in the world who understands the threat of radicalism, and the capacity
of these radicals and extremists to murder the innocent people. I remember full
well when that happened on your soil. I remember our discussions right after --
right thereafter.
And I want to thank you for working hard to deal with terrorist and terrorist
financing, to share intelligence to protect our people. That's our most
important job. And we improved our relations along these fronts. We did talk
about -- Vladimir did talk about economic cooperation. I support Russia's
efforts to join the WTO. I support Russia's efforts to join the OECD. I think we
ought to get rid of Jackson-Vanik. I think it's time to move this relationship
in a new light. And I look forward to reminding Congress that it's in our
interest to do such.
And so we had -- this is a good agreement, and a good understanding. And, Mr.
President, this is our last meeting as Presidents and -- it won't be our last
meeting as people, but it will be our last meeting as Presidents of our country.
And it's a little bit nostalgic. It's a moment where it just proves life moves
on. And I want to thank you for introducing me to the new President. We had a
good meeting. And I appreciate you providing the opportunity for us to meet. And
I look forward to working with him through the rest of my term.
In the meantime, thanks very much for your hospitality and your friendship,
and for giving me a chance to have yet another press conference with you.
(Laughter.)
PRESIDENT PUTIN: (As translated.) Dear colleagues, two questions from each
side. The first question will be asked by our guests, the United States.
Q President Putin, President Bush has expressed some confusion about who's
going to run Russia's foreign policy when you step down and become Prime
Minister. And he wondered who was going to represent Russia at the G8. Who is in
charge? And will you represent Russia at the G8?
And, Mr. President, seven years ago you said that you looked into Mr. Putin's
soul and that you found him to be trustworthy.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Yes.
Q You met today with his successor. Did you have a similar experience, and
what was your take?
PRESIDENT BUSH: I did find him to be trustworthy, and he was trustworthy.
Q No, I mean his successor.
PRESIDENT BUSH: No, I know. I'm setting it up. (Laughter.) He's going to go
first, though.
PRESIDENT PUTIN: Regarding foreign policy of the Russian Federation. In
accordance with the constitution of the Russian Federation, foreign policy is
determined by the President. And the newly elected President of the Russian
Federation, Dmitry Medvedev, will represent Russia at most important
international fora, including the G8 summit.
Once again, I would like to emphasize that over the past years as head of
Russian Federation, the President of Russian Federation, first Deputy Prime
Minister of the Russian Federation, and member of the Security Council of the
Russian Federation, Mr. Medvedev has been one of the co-authors of the Russian
foreign policy. He is in the course of -- he's quite knowledgeable about all the
current affairs and our strategic plans.
Therefore, this will be a reliable partner, a professional partner, who will
be ready for constructive dialogue, with priority given to Russia's national
interest, of course.
I don't know if there's anything I can add to what I've just said. Now, as
far as your humble servant, myself, if I become Prime Minister, the Prime
Minister will have many other issues and problems on his agenda. Those relate
mostly to the state of the economy and various social policy issues. And those
are issues that the rank and file citizen in any country is concerned with,
including in the Russian Federation. And I intend to focus my attention and my
efforts at addressing precisely these tasks.
PRESIDENT BUSH: My comments about Vladimir Putin were aimed to say that I
found him to be the kind of person -- I thought he'd be the kind of person who
would tell me what's on his mind. A lot of times in politics you have people
look you in the eye and tell you what's not on their mind. He looks you in the
eye and tells you what's on his mind. He's been very truthful. And to me, that's
the only way you can find common ground, and to be able to deal in a way that
you don't let your disputes interrupt your relationships.
And, you know, I just met the man for about 20 minutes, the President-Elect,
and it seemed -- he seemed like a straightforward fellow, somebody who would
tell you what's on his mind. But he is -- he is not the President. This man is
the President. So our conversation was -- he was very respectful of the fact
that he is waiting his time until he gets duly sworn in as President of the
Russian Federation. And then he'll act as the President.
And so my first impressions are very positive -- smart fellow. You know, I
got to see him at Crawford once before, and then he came to the White House, I
think with Vladimir, and then came on his own one time. But we never really had
a full discussion. And I just repeat to you, from my observation, he understands
there's a certain protocol, and that he is taking his time, he's studying, he's
preparing to assume office. But he is not going to act like a President, nor
assume presidential duties until he gets to be the President.
And so you can write down, I was impressed and looking forward to working
with him.
Q My first question is to Mr. Putin. We can see from the declaration what you
say about missile defense, the concerns are still there. Issues relating to the
third site in Russia are still on the agenda. And my question to Mr. Bush, you
talk about transparency. Will you be able to convince your colleagues in Poland
and the Czech Republic to be as transparent as you are going to be in missile
defense issues?
PRESIDENT PUTIN: (As translated.) True, we have not resolved all the problems
relating to missile defense and the third site in Europe. However, I have
already mentioned before and today, we have seen once again that our U.S.
partners not only understand our concerns, but are sincerely trying to overcome
our concerns. And another important observation is that I do have certain
cautious optimism with regard to mutual agreements. I believe that this is
possible. But the devil is in the details, and it is important here that our
experts could work at the expert level -- it's important for them to agree on
the concrete confidence-building measures, and they should see how those
measures will be implemented in practical terms.
And the third issue mentioned by President Bush, he says that we should work
together on these systems, it would be desirable. I believe that this is the
most important thing, if, at the expert level, and then at the political level,
we are able to start cooperation on a global missile defense system, as we are
now talking about -- missile defense in Europe -- if we manage to achieve this
kind of level of cooperation on a global missile defense system, this will be
the best kind of result for all our proceeding efforts.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Precisely, what he said is true. And that is, that is if we
can, first of all, earn enough trust to be able to cooperate regionally and then
globally, that's in our interest, because one of the concerns from the Russian
side, a clear concern is that if they believe the system is aimed at them,
they're going to obviously do something about it. They'll spend money to avoid
the system.
And I view this as defensive, not offense. And obviously we've got a lot of
work to do to convince the experts that the system is not aimed at Russia. It's
really to help deal with the threats that we all are going to face. And,
therefore, the vision about having a global system is something I strongly
support, where we're working cooperatively together. Look, there's a lot -- we
got a lot of way to go.
And as to your question about the Czech Republic and Poland, it's important
for the leaders in those countries -- and I've discussed the issue with them --
to understand that Russia is not an enemy, Russia is somebody with whom we need
to work. And we'll work through the differences there, as well. Transparency is
going to require more than just a briefing. Transparency is going to require
true openness in a system.
I have no problem with that. I have no problem sharing technologies and
information to make sure that all people understand this system is designed to
deal with multiple -- I mean, single or dual-single launch regimes that could
try to hold us hostage. This system is not designed to deal with Russia's
capacity to launch multiple rockets.
Now, we got work to do, but we've come a long way since our first
discussions. And this document really does express a vision that will make it
better for America and Russia when -- to work together along these lines. And
so, yes, I thank you for your question.
Q Thank you. Mr. President, your joint statement on missile defense is still
far short of a deal for Russian support or even acquiescence on this project.
Isn't this just a matter of kicking the can down the road, in the twilight of
both of your terms, to a new U.S. administration that may or may not even
support it?
And, President Putin, what would it take for you to be convinced that such a
system would not be a threat to Russian security? And how would Russia respond
if the U.S. went ahead with this anyway, as well as bringing Ukraine and Georgia
into NATO?
PRESIDENT BUSH: I think I just explained how far we have come on this issue.
This is a concept that I talked to Vladimir about a while ago, and we have come
a long way. Read the document and read what it says. It clearly talks about a
strategic relationship. It talks about the need for transparency and
confidence-building measures. It is a really good opportunity to put a framework
in place for our nations to work together.
Now, you can cynically say it's kicking the can down the road. I don't
appreciate that because this is an important part of my belief that it's
necessary to protect ourselves. And I have worked -- reached out to Vladimir
Putin. I knew this was of concern to him, and I have used my relationship with
him to try to get something in place that causes Russia to be comfortable with
it.
Is it going to happen immediately? No, it's not going to happen immediately.
But is this a good opportunity to work together? You bet it is. For the common
good. And so I feel comfortable with it, and I think it is -- you know, I happen
to believe it is a significant breakthrough, simply because I've been very much
involved with this issue and know how far it's come.
PRESIDENT PUTIN: (As translated.) What could convince Russia that this system
is not aimed against our nation? I would like to point out several elements
here. First, the best thing to do is to work jointly on a global missile
defense, with an equal democratic-style access to managing such a system. This
is what George was just talking about when he said that, at the technological
level, certain exchanges made it possible -- information exchange may be
possible. We can work jointly if we launch such joint work with equal democratic
access to managing the system. This will be the best guarantee of the security
of all.
If we fail to do it at this point, then we will insist that the system, the
transparency that we talk about, verification matters could be objective and
could work on -- function on an ongoing basis, on a permanent basis, with the
help of experts that should be present at those sites on a permanent basis. This
is the answer to the first part of your question.
As far as NATO enlargement is concerned, we talked about it at length earlier
today. I reaffirmed Russia's position on this count. I believe that in order to
improve relations with Russia it is necessary not to pull the former Soviet
republics into political/military blocs, but to develop relations with Russia,
itself. And then the actions of the bloc, of this or that issue, in a few years
will not be perceived so acutely in this country, as is the case today.
As far as enlargement is concerned, technical enlargement of NATO, I believe
that this is a policy which is in conformity with former, old logic, when Russia
was perceived as an adversary, which is no longer the case today. As Churchill
said, if you can't change the subject it is a sign of radicalism.
Q My question is first to both Presidents. You mentioned that yesterday and
today you summed up the eight years of your cooperation. I'd like to ask you if
you assess your work -- have there been more pluses, or minuses? And please tell
me, what have you achieved and what concrete things will be bequeathed to your
successors? Do you think the world has become a safer and more secure place? And
how has the U.S.-Russian relationship influenced world politics?
And my question to the United States now, to the President of the United
States now. You have met President-Elect today, Dmitry Medvedev. You talked
about the impression you have of him. I would like to ask you, did you discuss
the schedule of your further exchanges with him in the course of this year --
for the remaining part of this year?
PRESIDENT PUTIN: (As translated.) Okay, I will start answering. Has it become
better or has it become worse? We always want to have more of a good thing, and
we shouldn't forget that the -- as we say, the better is the worst enemy of the
good.
Let us remember the world on the brink of a nuclear disaster during the
Caribbean crisis, and now let us look at the U.S.-Russia relationship today. A
crisis like the Cuban crisis would not be possible now. It would be unthinkable.
I agree with George when we said that Russia and the United States no longer
consider each other as enemies. At a minimum, they look at each other as
partners, and I believe this is very important.
Of course, a lot of outstanding issues remain. It is true that we do have
disagreements on some sensitive areas of our cooperation, but, at the same time,
we do have enough strength to search for solutions. And as our meeting today has
shown, we are capable of achieving positive results -- that is, on the whole, in
counterterrorism, in fighting proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and
missile technology, of fighting the drug threat. All of these create a reliable
platform for cooperation, not only between Russia and the United States, but a
platform that contributes to ensuring international security.
If we mention on top of that our economic cooperation, we can state that in
the past eight years we have been able to improve the relations between our two
countries and in the world as a whole.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Yes, I agree with that answer. And secondly, I spent -- I
told President-elect that I would see him in Japan at the G8, and that's the
only scheduling matters that we discussed. And I'm going to finish out my term
-- my time with Vladimir, and then I'll turn my attention to the President when
he gets to be the President. But the first time I suspect we'll meet will be in
the scheduled meeting in Japan.
Thank you.
END 12:40 P.M. (Local)
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