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Interfax
March 16, 2008
Interfax's Interview
U.S. is Russia's friend despite disagreements - David
Kramer, U.S. diplomat
The United States is concerned about growing anti-American sentiment in
Russia, David Kramer, deputy assistant secretary of state for European and
Eurasian affairs, said in an interview with Interfax.
"We are aware of the growing anti-Western, but in particular anti-American,
sentiment. I think it is much more directed at the United States than at the
West in general. It's a serious cause of concern. And it is not something we
want to see continued," the diplomat said.
"The United States is certainly a friend of Russia. We certainly can have
disagreements and differences between our two governments, but that should not
be the justification for calling for anti-American rhetoric," said Kramer, who
is responsible for relations with Russia and countries of the Commonwealth of
Independent States, and for nonproliferation issues.
"We work very well together in many areas and we worked together to pass the
third resolution on Iran," he said.
"But we also have differences. Those include Kosovo. Those include the
Conventional Armed Forces in Europe Treaty. We hope to bridge the differences we
have on missile defense, where we can and should be working together. There are
also differences on some other issues, including policy toward some of Russia's
neighbors, and we also have our concerns about some of the domestic trends in
Russia," Kramer said. "But none of that, we hope, would provide the basis for
anti-American views or anti-American sentiment, and we hope in particular that
we see on media that is controlled by the state less of that kind of rhetoric,"
he added. Kramer said the U.S. does not intend to impose an American development
model on Russia, aware that Russia will develop its own way.
"We are not at all suggesting that there is just one path to follow, that
it's the American model. It will be Russia's model for sure. But it is our view
that there are some common features in these democracies in the world,
particularly the countries of the G8. And that's why we are expressing our
concerns," the U.S. diplomat said.
Speaking about Iran's nuclear problem, Kramer said that Russia and the United
States have moved much closer in their positions on the issue over the past
three years.
"We are concerned not only about the development of possible weapons of mass
destruction but also about missile capability. And here too, I think, this
should be an issue where Russia and the United States have common interest. We
agree on the overall objective, which is to ensure that Iran not become a
nuclear weapon state," he said.
The United States opposes weakening the political aspect of the OSCE's
activities, the deputy assistant secretary of state said.
"As to reform in the [Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe]
OSCE as a whole, I think we can have constructive discussions on that and we
have had this kind of constructive discussions on that issue. But I think there
is also some concern that some countries are trying to weaken the political
basket of the OSCE, putting more emphasis on security and economic baskets,"
Kramer said. "I think it is important that we maintain the integrity of the
political basket, as well. And that includes promoting reforms, election
observation. That's an area where I think we can certainly have plenty of
discussions in Vienna and look at ways that we can make OSCE a stronger
institution," the U.S. diplomat added.
"The OSCE is an issue where we [Russia and the U.S.] have had some
differences," the U.S. assistant secretary of state said.
"We regret that the OSCE election monitoring arm, ODIHR, felt it was not able
to send observer missions both to the [Russian State] Duma elections in December
and the presidential election in March, because of restrictions that the
authorities imposed on the terms: the size of the mission, as well as the timing
of the mission," Kramer said. "We hope that in the future the ODIHR will be able
to decide those things, as it does elsewhere, in other countries where it sends
observer missions," the U.S. diplomat said.
Washington backs the idea of establishing Russian non-governmental
organizations (NGO) in the United States and expects that U.S. NGOs will receive
a similar treatment in Russia, he said.
"I know that Russia has plans to set up an Institute for Democracy. We
welcome that. It is critically important to promote understanding between our
two countries," he said.
It was reported earlier that Russia's Institute for Democracy was opening
offices in the United States and France to monitor the human rights situation in
the West.
"We want to welcome Russia's efforts to establish an NGO presence in the
United States, just as we would hope we would receive similar treatment in
Russia," the U.S. diplomat said.
Speaking about the U.S. reaction to the Russian Institute for Democracy
opening an office in New York, Kramer said: "Let's give it a chance to do its
job." And "it is up to them to decide what kind of mission they want to carry
out," the diplomat added.
Kramer expressed regrets that "some NGOs have been targeted unfairly" in
Russia. "And I have in mind in particular the unfortunate situation with the
British Council, which is not quite a NGO," he said, adding that he believes "Internews
has done a terrific job, promoting the training and development of journalism in
Russia and has also ran into problems." On Russian-Ukrainian relations the
diplomat said that that gas controversies would be sorted out The United States
does not think Russia should subsidize the Ukrainian economy, but it fears that
Ukraine could be destabilized, Kramer said.
"We also know that gas controversies have been a problem between Ukraine and
Russia. We hope that this will be sorted out in a way that leads to greater
transparency that leads to elimination of middleman companies which tend to make
transparency more difficult," Kramer said.
"We do not support continued subsidization by Russia of Ukraine for energy,"
the diplomat said. On the other hand, the U.S. is "also wary that [] subsidies
could run a risk of destabilizing the Ukrainian economy," Kramer said.
"So we hope there will be a way to work out a more equitable energy
relationship for both Russia and Ukraine," the U.S. assistant secretary of state
said, adding that "It is not in Russia's interests to continue subsidizing
Ukraine."
Speaking about Ukraine's NATO aspirations, Kramer said: "The United States
does not want to push Ukraine in any direction."
Washington believes that "that closer relations between the United States and
Ukraine need not come at Russia's expense. No one should view relations in zero
sum terms," Kramer said. "We want to deepen relations between our two countries
[the U.S. and Ukraine], but we also want to maintain the strongest ties with
Russia," the diplomat said.
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