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Transcript of Meeting with the Leaders of the News
Agencies of G8 Member Countries
June 2, 2006
Novo-Ogaryovo
PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN: Good afternoon dear gentlemen!
I am very glad to meet with you in Moscow. I want to thank you for accepting
your Russian colleagues' invitation.
Your are the heads of the largest international news agencies and your
companies definitely occupy a special place among the international media.
It is through your news reports that the world learns about the majority of
events that take place on our planet. The materials and facts that your
reporters obtain become the basis of news programmes, radio broadcasts, and
editorials in newspapers and magazines.
Independently of your national origin, there are common and truly
professional principles that unite you in your work. Principles such as
efficiency and the desire to obtain the freshest, most objective and trustworthy
information. All of this unites different countries' news agencies and
establishes them as partners in international cooperation in the sphere of
information. I know that you have been successful in exchanging information and
developing joint media projects, including with your Russian colleagues. And I
believe that in practice you were convinced of their high level of
professionalism.
I shall point out that even in older times national news agencies developed
as the world's major suppliers of information. In new democratic Russia they are
also assuming their role as information agencies on a global scale. And each
year their potential, technical capabilities and network of correspondents,
including those in foreign countries, increases.
It is especially important to note that the role and scale of independent
agencies continues to increase and develop in today's world.
Soon journalists from your companies will report on the G8 summit St
Petersburg. This is really one of the world's most significant events. Issues on
its agenda have truly global implications and are pressing issues for more
countries than simply the G8 member states.
We sincerely hope that your work will be successful and interesting, and
expect that the leading international news reports will contain full and
objective information on all the issues and events that take place in St
Petersburg.
For our part we will try to do everything possible to provide the media with
the best organizational and technical conditions for going about their work.
Before the summit I would like to quickly go over the fundamental points on
the agenda that we are putting forward for discussion.
This is Russia's first G8 presidency and we suggested emphasizing the three
themes that you already know. I will just remind you that these themes are
international energy security, the fight against infectious diseases and
education. We chose these themes as priority ones in part because they can
improve the quality of life of millions of people and, as a whole, ensure that
humanity develops in a stable and positive way.
Russia's strategy for ensuring international energy security remains as it
always was and is well known. We want to form a stable system of legal,
political and economic relations that ensures a reliable demand and stable offer
of energy resources on the international market. Of course, on the conditions of
all necessary measures to ensure technological and environmental safety.
We consider one of the main tasks to be further investing as well as
incorporating new technologies into the extraction process, transport and use of
traditional energy resources.
Global energy security is impossible without the development of nuclear
energy. In connection with this we are putting forward the idea to create an
international network of nuclear centres. Their goal is to provide new consumer
countries with nuclear energy for peaceful purposes and to simultaneously ensure
technical safety and international monitoring over non-proliferation. Because
energy resources are limited we consider it essential to develop a programme
that oversees energy supply and energy efficiency. And finally, Russia supports
improving the quality of protection for the major components of the world's
energy infrastructure. This implies protecting them both from technical threats
and the threat of international terrorism.
We consider that one of the international community's strategic tasks
consists in fighting infectious diseases. Humanity has already achieved
impressive successes in this field. Many very dangerous diseases which claimed
the lives of hundreds of thousands and sometimes millions of people have
disappeared. Today's pharmaceutical industry provides us with an effective means
both for preventing and treating diseases. An international system designed to
monitor large-scale diseases is developing actively. Along with this developing
countries' expenses in the health sector are still far below their real needs
and this means that millions of people do not have access to many vaccines and
medicines. And along with this even the richest states are not able to lower the
levels of some of the most infectious diseases such as AIDS or tuberculosis.
Recently the world was faced with an outbreak of avian flew. And we must
acknowledge that the international community is not always able to react to
epidemics in a prompt and effective way.
When discussing such serious issues we knowingly refused to make false
promises and put forward catchy slogans. We consider it much more important to
observe the obligations that the G8 has already taken on concerning the struggle
against epidemics and, in particular, attaining the goals we declared at
Gleneagles. I am referring to providing those suffering from AIDS with access to
necessary treatments and increasing the international community's readiness to
fight against new diseases.
Regarding education, we intend to draw attention to several aspects. They
include increasing the quality of education and making it easier to receive
recognition for degrees obtained from different education systems. In connection
with this we are proposing to create an international centre that will evaluate
different education systems by comparing the amount of knowledge that students
receive. Its main task will be to certify graduates' qualifications and, in
practice, provide them with access to the international labour market.
We also greatly value developing cooperation between research establishments,
businesses and universities. This will allow to eliminate unnecessary barriers
in the innovation process and expand the possibilities for launching joint
projects. Russia actively participates in the programme Education For All and
will continue to develop principles that help evaluate the quality of primary
education. We intend to contribute a significant amount of money to this
programme already this year.
The fact that population mobility is increasing requires creating special
programmes to facilitate immigrants' social, cultural and professional
acculturation. This problem is so topical that your agencies draw attention to
it almost every day. We see what is happening in other countries and it gives us
cause for concern. Russia is country with a very large immigrant community and
Russia needs more immigrants. Of course this is a very important problem for
everyone. We shall certainly address this issue in St Petersburg.
In connection with this, we consider it especially important to constantly
share our experiences as well as work and educational methods. Practice has
shown that these programmes really do help immigrants find their place in a new
society and, in general, act as an important instrument within migration policy.
Of course, this is not a full list of all the themes that will be raised
during the summit discussions. We will absolutely discuss problems such as the
non-proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, the settlement of regional
conflicts and the struggle against terrorism.
We will also address the issue of helping the African continent resolve
serious social and economic problems, develop health systems and other factors
that influence the population's quality of life. In general, at the summit we
are prepared to examine any aspect of topical issues and engage in a joint
search for answers to these problems.
And as a conclusion to this opening address I would like to say that we
consider our G8 presidency as a continuation of what has been done by the G8 so
far, including what was done at Gleneagles. We also consider our presidency as
the stage that precedes that of our German colleagues who will assume the
presidency in 2007.
I think that we have an Italian colleague who is with us today. Today is
Italy's national holiday. First of all on my behalf and on behalf of all the
Russian people I would like to congratulate you and all Italians on this
holiday. Secondly I would like to give you the opportunity to say a few words in
connection with this.
Please go ahead.
B.BIANCHERI: Thank you Mr President for your kind words. They touched me very
deeply. I would especially like to thank you for giving news agencies the
opportunity to talk to you today.
Mr President, as you just mentioned in addition to the three basic themes
several other issues will be discussed in St Petersburg. As we know the UN
system is undergoing certain difficulties connected with the lack of trust in
this organization and the fact that the UN does not have adequate
decision-making capabilities.
Mr President, can the G8 and should the G8 play a special role in resolving
international conflicts and global problems including, for example, a necessary
UN reform.
Thank you.
VLADIMIR PUTIN: Despite Italy's national holiday, I will allow myself to
disagree with you.
First of all, I completely disagree with you that the UN is losing its
significance. Was there ever a time when the UN was able to easily and simply
provide solutions to complex and contentious international problems? Was it
easier during the Cuban missile crisis? And I could provide you with other
examples.
And the fact that today issues are discussed openly within the UN and that
the UN remains a platform for settling international problems rather than
serving the foreign policy interests of any one state makes it not only more
universal but absolutely necessary for developing acceptable decisions in
today's international arena. We do not have any other such universal
international organization. We do not have any other such international forums
that could replace the UN, including the G8. Along with this the G8 is an
important instrument for coordinating positions as well as developing common
approaches towards today's most important and perhaps most painful problems.
But it is only a club for coordinating positions, while developing solutions,
including obligations for participants in the international dialogue, solutions
that constitute an important part of today's international law, takes place
under the auspices of the UN.
. : Yesterday six countries met to discuss the Iranian problem. If possible
could you confirm what Russia's position is on this issue ¬ will Russia
participate in economic sanctions against Iran if Iran does not agree with the
existing offer? And will Russia participate in negotiations concerning Iran?
Thank you.
VLADIMIR PUTIN: There is a proverb that says if a grandmother had certain
reproductive organs, she would have been a grandfather. Politics does not accept
subjunctive mood. First of all we must develop common approaches with our
partners, approaches that would be acceptable to our Iranian partners and that
would not restrict their possibilities for using modern technology. At the same
time these approaches must completely assuage the international community's
concerns about the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons and nuclear technologies
that could prove dangerous for international peace.
What form these decisions will take will become clear in the course of
discussions with our European and American partners. In any case we welcome the
fact that the USA has decided to join the negotiation process. I consider that
the American administration has taken a very important step. And this allows the
whole process to take on an absolutely new character. In my last conversation
with the President of the United States I agreed that Russia should participate
in this process. Of course we will also participate in this process.
Our main position is well known. We are against the use force in any
circumstances. That is clear.
We also think it is too early to talk about sanctions. We must engage in a
detailed and profound discussion with the Iranian leadership. Only after that
will it be possible to speak about the process' prospects for development. But
in any case Russia is ready to participate actively in this process.
T.GLOSER: Mr President, first of all I would like to thank you on behalf of
us all for giving us this opportunity. I would like to use this opportunity to
thank Mr Ignatenko, with whom we have excellent professional and personal
relations, for organizing this meeting. He is an excellent diplomat, even in his
official capacity.
My question concerns energy policy. Right now the oil price is very high.
These high oil prices enabled you to establish a Stabilization Fund. That is
proof of foresight. But my question is as follows: if oil prices fall again and
the price of oil goes down to about 30-40 USD, what steps do you think are
necessary so that the Russian economy could have sustainable competititve
advantages?
VLADIMIR PUTIN: You ask about when the oil price goes to 30 or 40 USD. I
would like to inform you that the Russian Federation's budget is calculated
based on an oil price of 27 USD per barrel. For that reason we are creating a
very stable situation both for solving Russia's social problems and developing
its economy; here I am referring to the budget's role in this process.
But as a whole one of the most important tasks that faces Russia is the task
of diversification. We have a whole list of measures designed to make our
economy more innovative. First of all, these measures involve stimulating our
economy through the tax regime. We have already taken a number of decisions
which involve certain structural changes. I don't want to go into detail but,
say, allocating research and development activities to expenses which, as a
matter of fact, are exempt from taxation, and a number of other such tax
measures have already taken effect and are producing the desired results. And we
are planning other means to regulate taxes, for example changing the tax charged
for extracting energy resources.
There are other means to regulate taxes that will be used to achieve these
goals but, of course, that is not all. The government and the State Duma are
taking decisions. We took a number of measures that encourage innovation and
first and foremost concerning infrastructure. For example, the Law on
Concessions that ensures that investors will receive easier access to
infrastructure in Russia.
We made the decision to establish an investment fund which will also be used
for attracting private capital towards infrastructure and we hope to create a
partnership between the public and private sectors in this field. We plan to
create a venture fund. We made the decision to establish high-tech zones with
special administrative and tax regimes.
All of this together and also a number of other measures that we are planning
will, I hope, allow us to increase innovation within the Russian economy. If
this all works out ¬ and I have not doubts that it will ¬ then the changes and
fluctuations on the world oil market and the prices of energy resources in
general will not be able to affect the Russian economy in any way.
And of course one of the most important and perhaps the most difficult of our
problems today concerns the development of small and medium businesses. Their
development helps the whole economy develop in a stable way, just as it would in
any other economy.
P.LUET: Mr President, I would also like to thank you for giving us the
opportunity to meet with you. By doing so you recognize the role that news
agencies play in providing news and establishing democracy everywhere in the
world.
Just recently a vote was held in Montenegro, following which Montenegro
became an independent state. Do you think this constitutes a legitimate
precedent for regions such as Abkhazia and South Ossetia to become a part of the
Russian Federation?
Thank you.
VLADIMIR PUTIN: Russia never raised the issue about joining any territories
beyond its borders to the Russian state. And we have no plans to do so.
Yes, Montenegro is a telling example. But it is not everything because there
is still the Kosovo problem. Together we must understand and decide what are the
priorities when resolving such problems. Whether protecting the territorial
integrity of today's states is a fundamental priority or whether our priority
consists in defending the concepts of political expediency and historical
justice, something that is perhaps more difficult to define.
I consider that we must develop uniform rules, norms and approaches to
punctual events in different regions of the world. Otherwise there will be
chaos. Since when we hear that in one region of the world or in part of Europe ¬
just a stone's throw away by Russian standards ¬ one approach is possible yet in
another place such an approach would be absolutely inappropriate, it is
difficult for us to understand why. And I am not even speaking about the
difficulty of explaining this approach to one's citizens.
Because if someone considers that it is possible for certain territories that
have difficult relations with the state in which they are to become independent,
if such precedents arise, then they will have a negative influence not only in
post-Soviet space. These precedents will also carry negative implications for
the so-called rich countries of Europe. It will not only be difficult to explain
to the inhabitants of South Ossetia or Abkhazia why Kosovar Albanians can
separate from the country they are now formally a part of, but that they can't.
What will happen in Spain or in France? Or even in Italy where many different
groups want to separate?
I am very worried about this. And I would like Russia's concern to be
transmitted and shared by all. We must understand that this is not a sports
competition in which someone wins something back from someone else. Defining
general principles and skillfully protecting those principles will act as an
important measure in ensuring the future stability of international relations.
.TROTA: Mr President, many thanks for agreeing to meet with us.
I would like to come back to the energy issue. For over 40 years Russia and
Europe's energy relations were harmonious ones. However some partners are now
arguing about the reliability of Russian deliveries of energy resources.
Europeans look a bit strangely at Gazprom's efforts to start working in the
European market. On the other hand, there are many countries who want more
liberalization in the Russian energy market and I would say that they are trying
to obtain their share of the Russian gas and oil markets. Is this a temporary
phenomenon? Or is it the end of harmonious relations between Russia and Europe
in the energy sector?
VLADIMIR PUTIN: I consider that our business partners, especially European
ones, never doubted and today do not doubt that their Russian partners are
responsible. And we see such issues and their positions as a means to incite us
to make one-sided decisions which would satisfy our partners and but would not
be in the interests of the Russian economy. In our opinion this is just
competition.
Russia has been delivering energy to Europe for 40 years. There was never a
day or any hour that witnessed a failure. And at the beginning of this year
Russia provided full, and I want to stress it, the full amount of deliveries to
our western European partners and European consumers. To understand why Ukraine,
a transit country, illegally siphoned off a significant part of European
resources you must not ask us you must ask Ukraine. And let's not complicate
things unnecessarily. Let's talk directly and honestly about this problem.
Our western friends supported the 'orange events' in Ukraine in a very active
way. We see perfectly well what is happening there the whole time. The country
has been faced with a great deal of problems. But if you want to support what
happens there in the future, then you will have to pay for it. Why should we pay
for that?
Everyone is well aware that over the last 15 years Russia subsidized the
Ukrainian economy by a sum that amounted to three to five billion USD each year.
I want to emphasize that we did this every year. And each year we raised the
issue of whether we should change to the European regime for determining prices.
Let's work out uniform rules together. You, for example, represent a German
news agency. Why should German consumers pay 250 USD for a 1000 cubic metres and
Ukrainians 50? If you want to give Ukraine such a gift why don't you pay for it?
Why do you want us to give such presents? Take these three to five billion USD,
take them from the pockets of German taxpayers, and explain to them why you are
doing so. We have nothing against this. Pay up. That's the first thing.
The second concerns access to our energy systems. I want to emphasize that
they are our energy systems. The transport systems have been paid for by Russian
money and the deposits belong to the Russian people. We have a very responsible
energy policy. We are very cooperative during this teamwork. But we will always
look for mutually acceptable decisions. Just recently at the Russia-EU summit we
discussed these problems in a very frank, companionable and even friendly way,
and this was very pleasant for me. I asked our partners a question and I can ask
you the same question. What are we talking about when you try to convince us to
ratify an energy charter and other agreements? We are talking about access to
two types of infrastructure ¬ infrastructure used in extraction and for
transportation, which is first and foremost our main pipelines.
It should be a shared, mutual decision. So it is natural that we are asking
the question: okay, our partners are allowed to use our infrastructure for
extraction and transport but what will you let us do? Where are the deposits
that we can help exploit? There are simply none. As a matter of fact it is very
one sided. And many of our partners with whom we met recently in Sochi at the
Russia-EU summit agreed that together we need to look for methods of cooperation
that would satisfy both sides.
With the German company BASF we found such a solution. We allowed them to
start extracting in one of the major Russian deposits. We evaluated their
transport possibilities in Germany, actually an independent evaluation was made,
and BASF allowed us to use its network for distributing gas. We consider that
this is a very good example of cooperation and establishes a really new level of
trust that joins our economies and establishes the necessary conditions for
teamwork and trust. But no one-sided solutions will be accepted.
S.ISIKABA: Mr President, thank you very much for meeting with journalists
from the G8 countries.
Allow me to ask a question that presents a mutual interest and concerns
Russian-Japanese relations.
As you know 50 years have passed since diplomatic relations were established
between the Russian Federation and Japan. According to the 1956 declaration,
after signing a peace treaty Russia should give two islands, Habomai and
Shikotan, to Japan. Nevertheless, Japan demands that all four islands be
returned. It is for this reason that even today a peace treaty has not been
signed.
In your opinion, is there a third way or a conciliatory solution to this
problem? Or it would it be possible to establish a special legal zone to develop
joint economic activities in these islands? Do you think that such a possibility
exists?
VLADIMIR PUTIN: Mr Isikava, I should tell you that Russia never considered
that she should give any islands back. But during the negotiating process in
1956 we made a compromise with our Japanese colleagues and agreed to the
well-known text that you mentioned just now. It is true that the declaration
mentions giving Japan two islands but the declaration does not state under which
conditions or under whose sovereignty. These are all questions that the authors
of the texts left open. I draw your attention to the fact that the declaration
was ratified by the Supreme Soviet of the USSR and the parliament of Japan.
However, as a matter of fact, Japan unilaterally refused to implement this
declaration even though Japan had initiated signing this document.
Several years ago, once again at Japanese initiative, we returned to this
declaration. I can almost reproduce one of my colleague's questions word for
word: 'will Russia agree to come back to the declaration of 1956?' After a
certain amount of reflection and a number of consultations within Russia we once
again agreed to meet our Japanese partners halfway. We said: 'we are ready'. And
somewhat later on we heard that Japan didn't want to. In that case, why did they
raise the issue of returning to the declaration?
We do not want to dramatize anything unduly. Japan is one of our very
important partners. And I can only regret that I did not mention Japan in my
yearly Address. This was my mistake. Besides, Japan is not only an important
partner today but a very promising partner for Russia in the future. We would
like for all of these problems, all of this historical legacy, to be resolved.
And we are going to look for ways to resolve these problems.
V.IGNATENKO: We worked together for several days. I think that we still have
some questions left and we will still have the opportunity to discuss them.
VLADIMIR PUTIN: I would like to invite you all to dinner and we shall
continue to talk there. I will talk more concretely and in more detail about
energy issues and other ones, all the issues that we consider the most difficult
ones.
But I can already add something to what I just said. Undoubtedly we will
implement all our agreements and develop our cooperation. I will repeat once
again that we only need to find adequate ways to satisfy our mutual interests.
It is absolutely necessary that we do this. Without this there is no
international cooperation possible nor is with Russia in the energy sector. This
was always the case before. And we are not going to change the rules of the game
in the future. In fact, our friends in Europe and in other countries are asking
today that we allow them into the very heart of our economy. One of the
colleagues asked earlier: 'what will happen to Russia's economy if oil prices
fall?' True, this is very important for us today. And they ask us: 'will you let
us in to the very heart of your economy?'. Of course the answer must be an
asymmetrical one. Even today there are some decaying COCOM lists that limit the
high-tech products that are allowed to enter the Russian economy. Why? The cold
war has been over for a long time, the Soviet Union has also ceased to exist,
yet the restrictions remain.
I can now give you the outline of the many issues and problems that we have
and that we want you to listen to. We are not imposing anything. We have
resources. We are offering them. You require them. Let's search for solutions
that would increase the level of trust and would allow us to benefit from
long-term stable cooperation for many decades to come. Of course this is
possible. And this is what we want.
Please, go ahead.
B.BIANCHERI: Mr President, I would like to add just a couple of words to what
has already been said.
Thank you very much for inviting us to this interesting meeting, thank you
very much for your openness and for your frankness in answering all these
questions.
And I would just like to add, Mr President, that your idea to bring the news
agencies that represent the G8 member states together was very successful. And
we hope that our group will permanently work so that the news agencies continue
to maintain contacts between them in the future. It will be some kind of Moscow
Group, if it is possible to say so. I hope that we will continue this tradition
in the future. Of course, provided that you support this idea.
VLADIMIR PUTIN: Excellent idea. Thank you very much.
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