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US Department of State
Secretary Rice Addresses U.S.-Russia Relations At The
German Marshall Fund
Secretary Condoleezza Rice
Renaissance Mayflower Hotel
Washington, DC
September 18, 2008
SECRETARY RICE: Thank you very much, Craig. Thank you for that kind
introduction. I would like to thank Senator Bennett for being here, as well as
members of Congress and members of the German Marshall Fund Board. I want to
thank everyone at the Fund for inviting me to speak today. The German Marshall
Fund is an indispensable organization – especially for our transatlantic
alliance, but increasingly for our partnerships beyond Europe as well.
So thank you for the great work that you do in fostering unity of thought,
unity of purpose, and unity of action. These are the elements that the United
States and Europe need more than ever today. You have made an immeasurable
impact in helping us to reaffirm and strengthen our nation’s ties with Europe
these past few years. And so, again, thank you very, very much. I’m honored to
be here.
Now, this is actually the first time that I have spoken at the German
Marshall Fund as Secretary of State. And I venture to say, given our short time
in office, that it is likely the last. Now, I’m glad that you recognized that
that was not meant to be an applause line. (Laughter.)
I have come here today to speak with you about a subject that’s been on
everyone’s mind recently: Russia and U.S.-Russian relations.
Most of us are familiar with the events of the past month. The causes of the
conflict – particularly the dispute between Georgia and its breakaway regions of
Abkhazia and South Ossetia – are complex. They go back to the fall of the Soviet
Union. And the United States and our allies have tried many times to help the
parties resolve the dispute diplomatically. Indeed, it was, in part, for just
that reason that I traveled to Georgia just a month before the conflict, as did
German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier, among others.
The conflict in Georgia, thus, has deep roots. And clearly, all sides made
mistakes and miscalculations. But several key facts are clear:
On August 7th, following repeated violations of the ceasefire in South
Ossetia, including the shelling of Georgian villages, the Georgian government
launched a major military operation into Tskhinvali and other areas of the
separatist region. Regrettably, several Russian peacekeepers were killed in the
fighting.
These events were troubling. But the situation deteriorated further when
Russia’s leaders violated Georgia’s sovereignty and territorial integrity – and
launched a full scale invasion across an internationally-recognized border.
Thousands of innocent civilians were displaced from their homes. Russia’s
leaders established a military occupation that stretched deep into Georgian
territory. And they violated the ceasefire agreement that had been negotiated by
French and EU President Sarkozy.
Other actions of Russia during this crisis have also been deeply
disconcerting: its alarmist allegations of “genocide” by Georgian forces, its
baseless statements about U.S. actions during the conflict, its attempt to
dismember a sovereign country by recognizing Abkhazia and South Ossetia, its
talk of having “privileged interests” in how it treats its independent
neighbors, and its refusal to allow international monitors and NGOs into
Abkhazia and South Ossetia, despite ongoing militia violence and retribution
against innocent Georgians.
What is more disturbing about Russia’s actions is that they fit into a
worsening pattern of behavior over several years now.
I’m referring, among other things, to Russia’s intimidation of its sovereign
neighbors, its use of oil and gas as a political weapon, its unilateral
suspension of the CFE Treaty, its threat to target peaceful nations with nuclear
weapons, its arms sales to states and groups that threaten international
security, and its persecution – and worse – of Russian journalists, and
dissidents, and others.
The picture emerging from this pattern of behavior is that of a Russia
increasingly authoritarian at home and aggressive abroad.
Now, this behavior did not go unnoticed or unchallenged over the last several
years. We have tried to address it in the context of efforts to forge a
constructive relationship with Russia. But the attack on Georgia has
crystallized the course that Russia’s leaders are now taking and it has brought
us to a critical moment for Russia and the world. A critical moment – but not a
deterministic one.
Russia’s leaders are making some unfortunate choices. But they can still make
different ones. Russia’s future is in Russia’s hands. But its choices will be
shaped, in part, by the actions of the United States, our friends, and our
allies – both in the incentives that we provide and the pressure that we apply.
Now, much has been said recently about how we have come to this point. And
some have attempted to shift the responsibility for Russia’s recent pattern of
behavior onto others. Russia’s actions cannot be blamed, for example, on its
neighbors like Georgia.
To be sure, Georgia’s leaders could have responded better to the events last
month in South Ossetia, and it benefits no one to pretend otherwise. We warned
our Georgian friends that Russia was baiting them, and that taking this bait
would only play into Moscow’s hands.
But Russia’s leaders used this as a pretext to launch what, by all
appearances, was a premeditated invasion of its independent neighbor. Indeed,
Russia’s leaders had laid the groundwork for this scenario months ago –
distributing Russian passports to Georgian separatists, training and arming
their militias, and then justifying the campaign across Georgia’s border as an
act of self-defense.
Russia’s behavior cannot be blamed either on NATO enlargement. With the end
of the Cold War, we and our allies have worked to transform NATO – form – to
bring it from an alliance that manned the ramparts of a divided Europe, to a
means for nurturing the growth of a Europe whole, free, and at peace – and an
alliance that confronts the dangers, like terrorism, that also threaten Russia.
We have opened NATO to any sovereign, democratic state in Europe that can
meet its standards of membership. We’ve supported the right of countries
emerging from communism to choose what path of development they pursue and what
institutions they wish to join.
And this historic effort has succeeded beyond imagination. Twelve of our 28
neighbor NATO allies are former captive nations. And the promise of membership
has been a positive incentive for these states: to build democratic
institutions, to reform their economies, and to resolve old disputes, as nations
like Poland, and Hungary, and Romania, and Slovakia, and Lithuania have done.
Just as importantly, NATO has consistently sought to enlist Russia as a
partner in building a peaceful and prosperous Europe. Russia has had a seat at
nearly every NATO summit since 2002. So to claim that this alliance is somehow
directed against Russia is simply to ignore recent history. In fact, our
assumption has always been – and it still is – that Russia’s legitimate need for
security is best served not by having weak, fractious, and poor states on its
borders – but rather peaceful, prosperous, and democratic ones.
It is simply not valid, either, to blame Russia’s behavior on the United
States – either for being too tough with Russia, or not tough enough, too
unaccommodating to Russia’s interests or too naïve about its leaders.
Since the end of the Cold War – spanning three administrations, both
Democratic and Republican – the United States has sought to encourage the
emergence of a strong, prosperous, and responsible Russia. We have treated
Russia not as a vanquished enemy, but as an emerging partner. We have supported
– politically and financially – Russia’s transition to a modern, market-based
economy and a free, peaceful society. And we have respected Russia as a great
power, with which to work to solve common problems.
When our interests have diverged, the United States has consulted Russia’s
leaders. We’ve searched for common ground. And we have sought, as best we could,
to take Russia’s interests and ideas into account. This is how we have
approached contentious issues – from Iran, to Kosovo, to missile defense. And I
have traveled repeatedly to Russia, the last times – two times with Defense
Secretary Robert Gates, to try to foster cooperation.
Increasingly, Russia’s leaders have simply not reciprocated. And their recent
actions are leading some to ask whether we are now engaged in a new Cold War.
No, we are not. But it does beg the question: Where did this Russia come from?
How did the Russia of the 1990s become the Russia of today?
After all, the 1990s were, in many ways, a period of real hope and promise
for Russia. The totalitarian state was dismantled. The scope of liberty for most
Russians expanded significantly – in what they could read, in what they could
say, in what they could buy and sell, and what associations they could form. New
leaders emerged who sought to steer Russia toward political and economic reform
at home, toward integration into the global economy, and toward a responsible
international role.
All of this is true. But many Russians remember things differently about the
1990s. They remember that decade as a time of license and lawlessness, economic
uncertainty and social chaos. A time when criminals and gangsters and robber
barons plundered the Russian state and preyed on the weakest in Russian society.
A time when many Russians – not just elites and former apparatchiks, but
ordinary men and women – experienced a sense of dishonor and dislocation that we
in the West did not fully appreciate.
I remember that Russia, because I saw it firsthand. I remember old women
selling their life’s belongings along the old Arbat – plates and broken teacups,
anything to get by.
I remember that Russian soldiers returned home from Eastern Europe and lived
in tents, because the Russian state was just too weak and too poor to house them
properly.
I remember talking to my Russian friends – tolerant, open, progressive people
– who felt an acute sense of shame during that decade. Not at the loss of the
Soviet Union, but at the feeling of not recognizing their own country anymore:
the Bolshoi theater falling apart, pensioners unable to pay their bills, the
Russian Olympic team in 1992 parading into the games under a flag that no one
had ever seen, and receiving gold medals to an anthem that no one had ever
heard. There was a humiliating sense that nothing Russian was good enough
anymore.
This does not excuse Russia’s behavior, but it helps to set a context for it.
It helps to explain why many ordinary Russians felt relieved and proud when new
leaders emerged at the end of the last decade, who sought to reconstitute the
Russian state and reassert its power abroad. An imperfect authority was seen as
better than no authority at all.
What has become clear is that the legitimate goal of rebuilding the Russian
state has taken a dark turn – with the rollback of personal freedoms, the
arbitrary enforcement of the law, the pervasive corruption at various levels of
Russian society, and the paranoid, aggressive impulse, which has manifested
itself before in Russian history, to view the emergence of free and independent
democratic neighbors – most recently, during the so-called “color revolutions”
in Georgia, and Ukraine, and Kyrgyzstan – not as a source of security, but as a
source of threat to Russia’s interests.
Whatever its course, though, Russia today is not the Soviet Union – not in
the size of its territory, the reach of its power, the scope of its aims, or the
nature of the regime. Russia’s leaders today have no pretensions to ideological
universality, no alternative vision to democratic capitalism, and no ability to
construct a parallel system of client states and rival institutions. The bases
of Soviet power are gone.
And despite their leaders’ authoritarianism, Russians today enjoy more
prosperity, more opportunity, and in some sense, more liberty than in either
Tsarist or Soviet times. Russians increasingly demand the benefits of global
engagement – the jobs and the technology, the travel abroad, the luxury goods
and the long-term mortgages.
With such growing prosperity and opportunity, I cannot imagine that most
Russians would ever want to go back to the days, as in Soviet times, when their
country and its citizens stood isolated from Western markets and institutions.
This, then, is the deeper tragedy of the choices that Russia’s leaders are
making. It is not just the pain they inflict on others, but the debilitating
costs they impose on Russia itself – the way they are jeopardizing the
international credibility that Russian businesses have worked so hard to build,
and the way that they are risking the real, and future, progress of the Russian
people, who have come so far since communism.
And for what? Russia’s attack on Georgia merely proved what we had already
known – that Russia could use its overwhelming military advantage to punish a
small neighbor. But Georgia has survived. Its democracy will endure. Its economy
will be rebuilt. Its independence will be reinforced. Its military will, in
time, be reconstituted. And we look forward to the day when Georgia’s
territorial integrity will be peacefully restored.
Russia’s invasion of Georgia has achieved – and will achieve – no enduring
strategic objective. And our strategic goal now is to make clear to Russia’s
leaders that their choices could put Russia on a one-way path to self-imposed
isolation and international irrelevance.
Accomplishing this goal will require the resolve and the unity of responsible
countries – most importantly, the United States and our European allies. We
cannot afford to validate the prejudices that some Russian leaders seem to have:
that if you press free nations hard enough – if you bully them, and you threaten
them, and you lash out – they will cave in, and they’ll forget, and eventually
they will concede.
The United States and Europe must stand up to this kind of behavior, and to
all who champion it. For our sake – and for the sake of Russia’s people, who
deserve a better relationship with the rest of the world – the United States and
Europe must not allow Russia’s aggression to achieve any benefit. Not in Georgia
– not anywhere.
We and our European allies are therefore acting as one in supporting Georgia.
President Sarkozy, with whom we have worked very closely, is especially to be
commended for his leadership on this front. The transatlantic alliance is
united. Just this week, NATO Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer led all 26
of our alliance’s ambassadors on a mission to Tbilisi to demonstrate our
unwavering support for the Georgian people. The door to a Euro-Atlantic future
remains wide open to Georgia, and our alliance will continue to work through the
new NATO-Georgia Commission to make that future a reality.
We and our European allies will also continue to lead the international
effort to help Georgia rebuild – an effort that has already made remarkable
headway. The United States has put forward a $1 billion economic support package
for Georgia. The EU has pledged 500 million Euros, and it is preparing to deploy
a large mission of civilian observers and monitors to Georgia.
In addition, with U.S. and European support, G-7 foreign ministers have
condemned Russia’s actions and pledged to support Georgia’s reconstruction. The
Asian Development Bank has committed $40 million in loans to Georgia. The IMF
has approved a $750 million stand-by credit facility. And the OSCE is making
plans for expanded observers, though Moscow is still blocking this.
Conversely, Russia has found little support for its actions. A pat on the
back from Daniel Ortega and Hamas is not a diplomatic triumph.
At the same time, the United States and Europe are continuing to support –
unequivocally – the independence and territorial integrity of Russia’s
neighbors. We will resist any Russian attempt to consign sovereign nations and
free peoples to some archaic “sphere of influence.”
The United States and Europe are solidifying our ties with those neighbors.
We are working as a wider group, including with our friends in Finland and
Sweden, who have been indispensable partners throughout this recent crisis. We
are backing worthy initiatives, like Norway’s High North policy. We are working
to resolve other regional disputes, such as Nagorno-Karabakh, and to build with
friends and allies like Turkey a foundation for cooperation in the Caucasus. And
we will not allow Russia to wield a veto over the future of the Euro-Atlantic
community – neither what states are offered membership, nor the choice of states
that accept it. We have made this particularly clear to our friends in Ukraine.
The United States and Europe are deepening our cooperation in pursuit of
greater energy dependence* – working with Azerbaijan, and Georgia, and Turkey,
and the Caspian countries. We will expand and defend open global energy in the
economy from abusive practices. There cannot be one set of rules for Russia,
Inc. – and another for everyone else.
Finally, the United States and Europe, as well as our many friends and allies
worldwide, will not allow Russia’s leaders to have it both ways – drawing
benefits from international norms, and markets, and institutions, while
challenging their very foundation. There is no third way. A 19th century Russia
and a 21st century Russia cannot operate in the world side by side.
To reach its full potential, though, Russia needs to be fully integrated into
the international political and economic order. But Russia is in the precarious
position today of being half in and half out. If Russia ever wants to be more
than just an energy supplier, its leaders have to recognize a hard truth: Russia
depends on the world for its success, and it cannot change that.
Already, Russia’s leaders are seeing a glimpse of what the future might look
like if they persist with their aggressive behavior. In contrast to Georgia’s
position, Russia's international standing is worse than at any time since 1991.
And the cost of this self-inflicted isolation has been steep.
Russia’s civil nuclear cooperation with the United States is not going
anywhere now. Russia’s leaders are imposing pain on their nation’s economy.
Russia’s bid to join the World Trade Organization is now in jeopardy. And so too
is its attempt to join the Organization for Economic Cooperation and
Development.
But perhaps the worst fallout for Moscow is that its behavior has
fundamentally called into question whose vision of Russia is really guiding that
country. There was a time recently when the new president of Russia laid out a
positive and forward-looking vision of his nation’s future.
This was a vision that took into account Russia’s vulnerabilities: its
declining population and heartbreaking health problems; its failure thus far to
achieve a high-tech, diversified economy like those to Russia’s west and
increasingly to Russia’s east; and the disparity between people’s quality of
life in Moscow, and St. Petersburg, and in a few other cities – and those in
Russia’s countryside.
This was a vision that called for strengthening the rule of law, and rooting
out corruption, and investing in Russia’s people, and creating opportunities not
just for an elite few, but for all Russian citizens to share in prosperity.
This was a vision that rested on what President Medvedev referred to as the
“Four I’s”: investment, innovation, institutional reform, and infrastructure
improvements to expand Russia’s economy. And this was a vision that recognized
that Russia cannot afford a relationship with the world that is based on
antagonism and alienation.
This is especially true in today’s world, which increasingly is not organized
around polarity – multi-, uni-, and certainly not bi-. In this world, there is
an imperative for nations to build a network of strong and unique ties to many
influential states.
And that is a far different context than much of the last century, when U.S.
foreign policy was, frankly, hostage to our relationship with the Soviet Union.
We viewed everything through that lens, including our relations with other
countries. We were locked in a zero-sum, ideological conflict. Every state was
to choose sides, and that reduced our options.
Well, thankfully, that world is also gone forever, and it’s not coming back.
As a result, the United States is liberated to pursue a multidimensional foreign
policy. And that is what we are doing.
We are charting a forward-looking agenda with fellow multiethnic democracies
like Brazil and India, and with emerging powers like China and Vietnam –
relationships that were once colored by Cold War rivalry.
We are transforming our alliances with Asia – in Asia with Japan and South
Korea, Australia and the Philippines, with other countries of ASEAN and
expanding them for platforms for our common defense to catalysts – as catalysts
for fostering regional security, advancing trade, promoting freedom, and
building a dynamic Asia-Pacific region.
We are rebuilding relations with countries like Libya, whose leaders are
making responsible choices to rejoin the international order.
We are deepening partnerships, rooted in shared principles, with nations
across Africa – and to support the new African agenda for success in the 21st
century. We’ve quadrupled foreign assistance to promote just governance,
investment in people, fighting disease and corruption, and driving development
through economic freedom.
We are moving beyond 60 years of policy in the broader Middle East during the
Cold – which, during the Cold War, led successive administrations to support
stability at the price of liberty, ultimately achieving neither.
And we are charting a hopeful future with our friends and allies in the
Americas – from whom we were, at times, deeply estranged during the Cold War.
Here, we have doubled foreign assistance. And now, we are pursuing a common
hemispheric vision of democratic development, personal security, and social
justice.
Anachronistic Russian displays of military power will not turn back this tide
of history. Russia is free to determine its relations with sovereign counties.
And they are free to determine their relationships with Russia – including in
the Western hemisphere.
But we are confident that our ties with our neighbors – who long for better
education and better health care and better jobs, and better housing – will in
no way be diminished by a few, aging Blackjack bombers, visiting one of Latin
America’s few autocracies, which is itself being left behind by an increasingly
peaceful and prosperous and democratic hemisphere.
Our world today is full of historic opportunities for progress, as well as
challenges to it – from terrorism and proliferation, to climate change and
rising commodity prices. The United States has an interest in building
partnerships to resolve these and other challenges. And so does Russia.
The United States and Russia share an interest in fighting terrorism and
violent extremism. We and Russia share an interest in denuclearizing the Korean
peninsula and stopping Iran’s rulers from acquiring the world’s deadliest
weapons. We and Russia share an interest in a secure Middle East where there is
peace between Israelis and Palestinians. And we and Russia share an interest in
preventing the Security Council from reverting to the gridlocked institution
that it was during the Cold War.
The United States and Russia shared all of these interests on August 7th. And
we share them still today on September 18. The Sochi Declaration, signed earlier
this year, provided a strategic framework for the United States and Russia to
advance our many shared interests.
We will continue, by necessity, to pursue our areas of common concern with
Russia. But it would be a real shame if our relationship were never anything
more than that – for the best and deepest relationships among states are those
that share not only interest, but goals, and aspirations, and values and dreams.
Whatever the differences between our governments, we will not let them
obstruct a deepening relationship between the American and Russian people.
So we will continue to sponsor Russian students and teachers and judges and
journalists, labor leaders and democratic reformers who want to visit America.
We will continue to support Russia’s fight against HIV/AIDS and tuberculosis.
And we will continue to support all Russians who want a future of liberty for
their great nation.
I sincerely hope that the next president and the next secretary of state will
visit Russia and will take time to speak with Russian civil society, and will
give interviews to Russia’s diminished but still enduring independent media,
just as President Bush and I have done.
The United States and our friends and allies – in Europe, but also in the
Americas, and Asia, and Africa, and the Middle East – are confident in our
vision for the world in this young century and we are moving forward. It is a
world in which great power is defined not by spheres of influence or zero-sum
competition, or the strong imposing their will on the weak – but by open
competition in global markets, trade and development, the independence of
nations, respect for human rights, governance by the rule of law, and the
defense of freedom.
This vision of the world is not without its problems, or its setbacks, or
even its significant crises – as we have seen in recent days. But it is this
open, interdependent world, more than any other in history, that offers all
human beings a greater opportunity for lives of peace, prosperity, and dignity.
Whether Russia’s leaders overcome their nostalgia for another time, and
reconcile themselves to the sources of power and the exercise of power in the
21st century – still remains to be seen. The decision is clearly Russia’s – and
Russia’s alone. And we must all hope, for the good of the Russian people, and
for the sake of us all, that Russia’s leaders make better and right choices.
Thank you very much. (Applause.)
MODERATOR: Thank you so much, Secretary Rice. That was a very compelling and
thoughtful speech. The Secretary has agreed to take three questions. Where is
the first one? Over here.
QUESTION: Madame Secretary, Russia is a petro-state, and its level of
assertiveness pretty much correlates to the price of oil. The price of oil is
down by 30 or 40 percent, and the oil markets look like they’re going to get
softer. Would you expect Russian behavior to be at all modified because of the
price of oil and its importance to their economy?
SECRETARY RICE: Well, I don’t know if their behavior will be modified. I do
know that there are significant vulnerabilities for petro-states that do not
diversify. And there are significant vulnerabilities for petro-states that
depend on their ability to engage in monopolistic behavior during good times,
when those – when the price of oil is down and that monopolistic behavior
doesn't pay off in terms of customers. So those are facts that I understand and
realities that I understand that are independent of Russia in particular.
I will say that there had been a time when Russia talked a lot about the
diversification of its economy because of its – this period of oil boom. But
again, half in and half out. It’s difficult to diversify your economy if rule of
law and transparency and predictability of contracts is not available. And so
whatever the future of the price of oil may portend, I think that the problems
in the Russian economy are ones that are there structurally, and they will, of
course, be more vulnerable or made worse when commodity prices are, as they are,
headed south.
But there are just certain structural problems with being a petro-economy.
And if you look at places that have handled it well, for instance like Norway,
they have taken very different course, and of course, as a democratic state,
have had to take a different course.
MODERATOR: Next question. Over there.
QUESTION: (Inaudible) German Marshall Fund. About the G-8, I just wonder what
your thinking is of the G-8 now. Is it time, perhaps, to reinvent it, to make it
larger? And how do you see Russia’s role now in the G-8?
SECRETARY RICE: Well, I think that Russia has called into question whether it
shares the goals and aspirations of many of these institutions. And what has
happened thus far – first of all, there’s never been a G-8 finance ministers,
and so the G-7 finance ministers have been the ones that have been working on
the Georgia package and so forth. We have also met at the level of G-7 foreign
ministers meeting telephonically a couple of times because issuing one statement
that said that it was unusual for G-7 foreign ministers to criticize the
behavior of another – of a member of the G-8. So there is a lot of activity that
has taken place outside the context of the G-8, and more in the context of the
G-7.
I think that we will have to see. The jury is still out on a couple of
elements about Russia, and I hope that Russia will, frankly, stop digging the
hole that it has dug by recognizing Abkhazia and South Ossetia. One of the
things that Russia could do to show that it understands that a different course
is necessary would be not to try to alter the status quo in Abkhazia and South
Ossetia. So no permanent military bases. Don’t start exploring for resources in
territory that is clearly within the international boundaries of a member-state
of the United Nations.
I think these are the kinds of issues that people are going to be looking at.
Is Russia going to block the entry of observers and monitors into Abkhazia and
South Ossetia itself? Is Russia going to actually withdraw its forces fully and
go back to the status quo ante? So there is a lot to still look at here, but I
think that the last couple of months have clearly – or the last month or so, has
clearly cast a pall on the question of Russian engagement with the diplomatic
and economic and security institutions that were built on certain premises about
what kind of engagement and interaction Russia wished to have with the world.
MODERATOR: Final question. Okay, way over there.
QUESTION: (Inaudible) visiting fellow at the Brookings Institution. Thank you
for excellent speech.
There are a few things I would like you to elaborate if you can. First, you
didn’t talk about unintended consequences of a strained relationship with
Russia. You mentioned the cooperation on terrorism and nonproliferation. But
what – if they don’t collaborate, that would be a major setback for everybody.
The second point is: Don’t you think that we as Western democracies have
somehow lost our moral force in invading Iraq and now we have difficulty at
making – Russia understands that invading is not such a good thing and, you
know, you’re breaking international law? Thank you very much.
SECRETARY RICE: Yes. Well, let me – on the first question of the
consequences, look, I think we still have an interest in cooperation on
terrorism, and I think Russia still has an interest. Russia, given its problems
with extremism on its periphery, has always understood that it had an interest
in cooperating on terrorism. I might note, too, that separatism and terrorism,
in some of that area around the south of Russia – the southern flank – go
somewhat hand in hand. And so, the recent moves by Russia, I think, have
consequences also for the way that those regions will develop. And we will
continue to do what we do with every state, which is to share information, to
share whatever intelligence we have. Because none of us have an interest in
another terrorist attack, and I expect that to continue.
If you remember, the United States was most – probably the most supportive
country in the world of – with Russia after Beslan. And I don’t think that that
is going to stop. And I think if there are those out there who would wish to
exploit what they see as tensions in U.S.-Russian relations, they shouldn’t do
it. Because the common fight against terrorism is one that I expect to continue.
As to Iraq, I think we have to be very clear here. Saddam Hussein was an
international outlaw by numerous, numerous, numerous Security Council
resolutions which Russia itself had voted for, including the last resolution,
1441, which called for consequences should the Iraqis not carry through on the
demands of that resolution. This was a state that had attacked its neighbors,
used weapons of mass destruction both against its own people and against its
neighbors. It was a state that had started two major wars and that frankly was
an outlaw state. And it was a brutal state to its own people. What the United
States and the coalition of states that liberated Iraq did was to give the Iraqi
people an opportunity to build a new and decent kind of society.
Now to be sure, it has been harder than any of us might have dreamed. But if
you look at where Iraq is today, reemerging as a strong Arab state in the center
of the Middle East, but a multiethnic, democratic state with a functioning
parliament, with a functioning government whose neighbors are recognizing that
and going back in important numbers from places like UAE and Bahrain and Jordan
to reestablish embassies there, if you look at an Iraq that will not seek
weapons of mass destruction like the Saddam Hussein regime, that will live in
peace and security with its neighbors and that will give its own people a chance
for democratic governance, I don’t think that that bears any resemblance to
invading a small democratic neighbor whose only crime, apparently, was that it
wished to be a part of the emerging transatlantic world.
And so I just don’t think that there is any comparison, and we shouldn’t
allow the Russians to make such an argument.
MODERATOR: Thank you so much.
SECRETARY RICE: Thank you very much. (Applause.).
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