
#3
Trud
No. 3
January 10, 2002
[translation for personal use only]
ON PRACTICAL ASPECTS OF RUSSIA-US COOPERATION
The Putin-Bush mutual understanding and working collaboration, which nobody
envisaged, yielded ripe fruit by the end of 2001. The common enemy - the
fighters of bin Laden's Al Qaeda, who also trained terrorists for Chechnya with
the connivance of the Taliban - has been routed. And it was done not only with
the help of the Northern Alliance, but also by Americans, Sergei ROGOV,
non-voting member of the Russian Academy of Sciences and director of the
Institute of the USA and Canada, told Vladimir MIKHEYEV of Trud. Such quick
military defeat of the Taliban would have been impossible without the
large-scale pressure on Taliban's recent sponsor - Pakistan, who also enjoyed
financial privileges from the USA, or without massive bombing and concentration
of an expeditionary corps on the Afghan border.
Question: You have stated recently that
Moscow-Washington collaboration in the struggle against international terrorism
has turned the two states into de facto allies. Do you want to take back this
evaluation now that the USA has announced its decision to withdraw from the 1972
ABM treaty, for which the Russian leaders fought "to the last drop of
blood"?
Answer: Allies do not necessarily think
alike. Did Stalin and Roosevelt, who were reliable partners in the anti-Hitler
coalition, agree on the nature of the Second World War or on the post-war order
in Europe? Don't the USA and its current allies - Japan and EU countries - wage
banana, cod and automobile wars, firmly upholding, when they can, their national
economic interests? It is another thing that there is a package of common basic
values shared by all those who see more benefits in cooperation than in
confrontation. Alliances are born also of the awareness of threats emanating
from a common enemy. For the USA and Russia, this common enemy today is
international terrorism.
Question: But the Kremlin continues to
chide the West for dividing terrorists into good and bad, for seeing a
difference between bin Laden's fighters and Chechen separatists who survive on
drug money.
Answer: Of course, there are differences
in their views. In particular, Moscow and Washington still cannot agree on the
Kosovo Liberation Army. But one thing is indisputable: our union in the struggle
against bin Laden and the Taliban is a reality. It is another question if it
will be tactical and temporary, falling apart after the completion of the
anti-terrorist operation in Afghanistan.
Question: Do you have an answer to this
question?
Answer: I believe we should use this
favourable situation to step up cooperation in other spheres, such as the
strengthening of the regime of non-proliferation of nuclear, chemical and
biological weapons. It is true that we have not yet coordinated our stances on
many disarmament issues. In particular, the Bush Administration does not want to
ratify the comprehensive nuclear test ban treaty. Yet Moscow and Washington are
kept together by a common desire to preclude further proliferation of mass
destruction weapons.
We should also encourage the economic dialogue. Indeed, there is no mutual
economic dependence of our countries. What we have is Russia's dependent
position. It is being constantly pressurised by discrimination measures, which
greatly complicate the revival of our national economic potential.
I think that a bilateral treaty on mutual security, which will take into
account the national and state interests of the two powers, should become an
inalienable part of the legal base of our partnership.
Question: Don't you think that such a
treaty may have the same fate as the ABM treaty?
Answer: No, I don't think so, because it
would not be a mutual control treaty but a treaty on political and military
partnership.
But we should also modernise the arms control regime. We have actually
admitted that the ABM treaty has grown obsolete. Russia has changed and rivalry
based on mutual assured destruction and balance of fear has become a thing of
the past. We face new threats in the geopolitical context now. However, the 1972
ABM treaty is inseparably linked with about 30 security agreements, in
particular START-1.
Consequently, we need a new arms control regime involving other nuclear
countries. The US NMD system will not create practical security threats to
Russia in the next 7-10 years. But it can nullify the modest nuclear potential
of China, which may be tempted to try to catch up with and overtake the USA.
Nobody can guarantee that China's accelerated nuclear missile programme would
not worry the neighbouring India. And if India takes up the challenge, Pakistan
will join the race.
As a result, we will have a race with many participants and an unpredictable
but surely frightening outcome. This will have extremely negative consequences
for Russia. If we notice this adverse scenario becoming a reality, we will have
to take adequate military-technical measures. This is why we should start
testing and deploying MIRVed warheads on our mobile Topol-M missiles, which will
be cheap. And it will protect us from unpleasant surprises.
Question: Maybe the reduction of nuclear
warheads proclaimed by Putin and Bush will lower the level of confrontation?
Answer: Further reduction of offensive
weapons is a step in the right direction. Yet I think that a new agreement,
which is to be formalised by the visit of the US president in mid-2002, should
not stipulate the slightest details. But it should include references to the
START-1 verification procedure. Such a link may be the compromise that will suit
both sides.
Another positive change could be clearly worded rules of Russia's
participation in the NATO operation within the framework of the nascent
cooperation council. Besides, Russia and the USA may sign an agreement
stipulating the area of cooperation in the struggle against the common enemy,
international terrorism.
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